Will US let Pak Army be crowned for Victory in Waziristan?
By A Khokar • Nov 3rd, 2009 • Category: Politics, Worth A Second Look • 19 CommentsAfter incident of 911, US declared an all out war against terror in our region against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. There was the time when war was seen drawing nearer to our western borders that Al Qaeda was allegedly using our FATA territory as their sanctuaries. Reportedly Al Qaeda was carrying out their subversive activities inside Afghanistan and when they used to return back to our area—- in their hot pursuit, quite often US-NATO forces while chasing them crossed over in Pakistan.
Musharraf as an ally in the war took the responsibility to deal with these sanctuaries of Al Qaeda and moved Pak army in the most inaccessable land in the world in this area. Pakistan received some billions of dollars in aid to quell this evil present on our soil but on the face of it, knowing it to be such that Al-Qaida was present there; its presence was altogether denied in our press and Media. US–NATO forces as well as our government although knew it well but Pakistani public was consistently kept in dark. No effort what so ever was made to take the public in confidence or to form some sort of public opinion against this evil of Al Qaeda. This is the biggest hypocrisy and blunder [1] that Pakistan has ever committed. Later when Al Qaeda aggression escalated; our own Armed forces were asked to start a limited war against Al Qaeda in our own areas but some how the press which was calling itself a free press, probably at the behest of the government of the day picked it differently and we were lead to believe to call it a US war.
This gave birth to a unique national dilemma of ours—- to follow a dual faced policy to keep the public at home there by in dark as well as international Media in illusion of our hide and seek business against Al Qaeda. But time kept on fleeting against Pakistan very fast. At the same time Pakistan could not read the American designs or comprehend it well that a super power USA who had travelled all the way some seven seas to come across here and sat in our neighbourhood with the aim to debar this nation of our nuclear assets and disintegrate who is allegedly supporting Al Qaeda——- could frustrate US designs so easily. Rather our dual policy resulted in keeping the phenomena of terrorism alive and thus provided a desired pretext to US to camp in our neighbourhood along our borders. Our strategy was certainly not working.
Mean while the reality of existence of Al Qaeda on ground has been taking its heavy toil and it was catching us up fast. CIA very successfully launched a decoy in shape of Tehrik e Taliban- in Pakistan (TTP) to destabilize Pakistan from with in that our intelligence services were also unable to counter their onslaught. Ultimately Pakistan scum to its dual faced policy. This has been the major blow and failure to the Pakistani adopted strategy and in no time the entire society was seen falling in the clutches of TTP ideology and nation was at their mercy.
Consequently Pak Army was made to move in and they were able to eliminate the evil from one of the area of Malakand and Swaat. As a second phase against the main den of Al Qaeda and TTP an operation ‘Rah e Nijat’ is since in progress in South Waziristan to free the area of this menace.
Pakistan has kept hiding the presence of Al Qaeda on her soil. This gave a free hand to their off shoots like TTP and others a leverage to flourish and they have been getting stronger day by day. This Satan having stashed its pockets with American dollars was on loose in disguise as Islamic preacher using religion as weapon and was also able to extend its influence in other areas. The greedy, godless and profane Mullahs sitting in the madrassahs across the country provided them boarding and lodging in order to spread their doctrine and made available the vulnerable destitute and disgruntled youth, especially in rural areas to be recruited as fodder and to become their foot soldiers. While the government kept on sleeping on wheels the TTP supported by political forces like MMA and JUI-Fazlur Rehman were seen turning into monsters.
But now at last when the mega military actions against the monsters of this terrorism and the dens of Al Qaeda is on and victory(God willing) is—–but certain——- should we assume that US lead NATO forces will let Pak Army be crowned— alone for all this and NATO forces will keep on sitting there on their hunches idle? Will they simply pack up and go? Is that —– all?
This is trillion dollar question that US which has spent some trillions of dollars for last eight years on their Armed forces and their supporting groups—– to come invade Afghanistan and catch just one person—-Osama bin laden——- whose ragtag forces are now hauled up by Pak army and end is drawn so near;
Will US let Pak Army be crowned for Victory in Waziristan?
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[1]Lamhoun ney khatta ki hey—–Sadioun ney Sazza paee
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Hi Khokar,
You are an Independent nation called PURE LAND OF ISLAM. Show some guts.why this pure land of Islam has to get certificate from USA? If you think TTP,alqueada,Brigade 313,jaish Mohamed, sipahi Sabha, Lashkar e Jhangivi,LET are all EVIL I REPEAT EVIL who is topping Pakistani army to eliminate them?
Khokar
you are accurately but cowardly covering the whole situation.
For God sake don’t use name of Pakistan for alqaida formation and protection program as it is between few generals and CIA officials who executed such destructive planning without apprehending its consequences.
First they executed such deadly games without informing political and civilian administration and on the other hand they started playing double, triple games with their dollar donors for getting personal gains.
Expecting good intention from US again and again is like living in fool’s world and our fool generals do this crime again and again. But in this foolishness they don’t forget to demand for their personal and family security along with high profile living and business ventures for their next generations.
How would you accept military led by such policy makers can morally or tactically win this game.
You would only strive in this internal battle after complete over hauling of top management of army.Presently all generals are following Musharraf policy to get the sympathies of US officials by showing them dead bodies of our soldiers and more than it is civilian,
They are trying to harass to US by showing the high rise anger of public so that aide could be smoothly passed on to them.
You know in yesterday’s blast 7 soldiers of Signal battalion was seemingly targeted who were coming there to collect the salaries of whole unit.The man on bike with explosives waited there until the team come and then left his motor bite near to them.
So who knows the details of all such timing of pay collections for particular unit.
Again I am mentioning that It is highly vigilant area where two sides all the time we see the surveillance vehicles of different law enforcing agencies. Residential area of senior army officers is just lying less than half km of area. so why only poor soldiers were selected to hit brutally like that?
Nice round up khokar.
Johann,
Tehriks and movement run in the masses are called the mould of a future of any nation. It was the long Independence Tehrik run by Ghandi ji and Quad e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah in India which secured the Independence for India. The partition of India to secure a separate land for Muslims is based on two nation theory that Muslim the future rulers of this planet earth may not accept any subjugation or be graded as second class citizens any where that they live; they secured their land Pakistan which is again an out come of Tehrik.
At the out set these Tehriks and their leaders are resisted or restricted by the ruling governments but if they are the voice of the people; they definitely win. You may kill peoples but not their ideas. Their hopes may shatter for some time but vision may not be lost.
Some of the Tehrik that you mentioned are not the terrorists but are the pioneers setting their goals and history is in making. The Tehriks which do not have backing in the masses they die their own deaths you don’t have to eliminate them.
Suppose some of the Tehriks run in Kashmir or their sympathisers in Pakistan can not be negated. They are laying their lives and fighting for their independence which is the right of all the human beings. UNO has also validated their claim.
The Maoist Tehrik which practically governs entire eastern India in Chattisgarh, Jharkhand, west Bengal and Bihar that they also have their firm anchorage in Maharashtra also are fighting the Indian oppressive government central command and are all out to have their independent land. They have the right to secure their land that it is the voice of the people and believers in democracy they have to go with them.
Any how please do not worry about Pakistan; they know their way out and can successfully win over all the oppressors around them. Their arch rival enemies like India and others who have their evil designs and are aiming at dismantling this country that they are fear full that the tomorrow belongs to this nation called as Pakistanis.
Islam was not dawned on this planet to be depressed and its followers to be subjugated. More you press it—– it emerges more shiningly and with it unique splendour.
Regards
Oh the Taliban
In Afghanistan under Mullah Omer they are also fighting for the freedom of their land and against the occupation by the oppressor of the day——USA. The ragtag army of Taliban are fighting a super power and reportedly has compelled the US-NATO forces to kneel in front of them.
But Pakistan is not fighting against Taliban of Afghanistan but the decoy forces and phony cum imaginary stooges of Al Qaeda, the enabler of so called war against terror—— that it has been raised by USA with help of local collaborator India —- to undo one country——Pakistan and debar it of its nuclear assets.
Sadly these oppressor agents have been able to infiltrate and set their foot on our land but our Gallant Armed forces are all out to eliminate them. The Pakistan Armed forces they do not dither to slit any throat which is found to be collaborators or take that tongue out or shut which has got no more pleasant to say.
Nazia,
To negate any action under taken by our armed forces has become your nature—– so please keep on doing that…. Tou sudharney wali naheeen. So in advance —–Tohanoun sarray Qatal moaaf….
Mushkal hey tou mery hey; taree hey Mushkill kia.
Kia ho gaey ga Mesiiah bhi—- ab mera qatal keya?
Dear Friends,
Pak army has under taken an Armageddon in South Waziristan against the collaborators and stooges of Al Qaeda that they are raised there on the behest and with the full support of US— CIA and India with in our country———– with one aim to undo this country of ours—-Pakistan.
Al Qaeda is an imaginary and phony organisation to serve as enablers in order to form and make live a pretext of war against terror and thus prolong the stay of foreign forces in our neighbourhood Afghanistan. Al Qaeda serve as decoy that US lead NATO forces may exploit and may make advances in our land.
The TTP was raised by CIA with aim to carry out subversive activities with in Pakistan in order to break the will of people to resist and break their potent resolve that they are putting up to face their enemy. Of course this enemy is very cunning,. They have been able to infiltrate with in the inner core of defences of our society. The greedy godless and munafiq Mullah is standing there in their support that they have flourished on his behest.
This is attesting time for this nation and we need to keep our wits about. Please Know your enemy. We have to stand shoulder to shoulder in support of our sons and daughters that we have sent forward in shape of our Gallant forces to engage our enemy in our———- this war of survival.
Our Victory day Insha Allah is drawing nearer; but our enemies may not like to see us attaining that. This enemy is all out to inflict maximum harm on our society. There seem to be long haul of our miseries ahead. We may witness lot many dramas played on this war stage to avert our victory.
But We have to remain united and up beat against all the odds… all the time.
Regards
INDIA IS EVIL NEIGHBOUR. In waziristan they found a lot of RAW meterial; INDIA IS EVIL
Khokar
your poetic taunts passed above my head.
What I poorly understand is I am neither messiah nor qatil , even cant think of reaching to such heights of humanity.
a very common ordinary person…
This couplet again fit on our tax eaters generals who kills us by declaring themselves as our all time Messiah
Dear Nazia,
I don’t think that Pak Army general or our Army thrive on tax payer’s money only. Musharraf could mint some ten billions from America that he negotiated and got US agreed to pay as a cost of move of our military men and its machines and tracks into the godforsaken place called FATA and other connected areas. No Pakistani money has been used for these excursions. Even Americans are still paying in some form or the other for all the military mega events: like—- earlier in Swaat and now in Waziristan— that Pak army has under taken.
I know you always remain critical of Pak army and you must be that you have stayed at very close quarters to Army culture. You know that in Army most of the people are retired very early when they are still young and at their prime age of round 40; except the few; the red tapes that they go up to fifties. In human life age factor of 40 to 50 is prime time in men’s carriers for normal services but Army says them good bye which happens to be the most frustrating scenario for army men.
At this turn in their life they have still got lot of energy, courage and valour. They are disciplined and orderly and they want to make use of their abilities very positively…… They work at close coordination to other fellow buddies and make the moves together with each other’s help and we see that they have done marvellous things in the businesses and other estate circles etc that people out side their circle envy them. Ex Army men are running some of the best private ventures.
Any how I do not want to taunt you all as you often eccuse me. You are such a lovely adoring person. Your contributions are exceptional and most of the times positive. Yes; some time I do apply method for your twitching—-when I see you entering the restricted fields that makes me weary of you—-that there on some of the nitwits from across our borders they make use of your references and in a away Pakistan is seen maligned.
Last month I was in Pakistan and wanted to see and meet the TPS team and other contributor but had no clue where Ghazala is located and where her offices are. I believe last time they had organised some meeting in Islamabad. I left a message for her that TPS may contact me on my email which is simple; aaykhokar@yahoo.co.uk. I love to have a good contacts—- that it is adabarez to all who so ever is the seeker of wisdom and truth.
Regards
Khokar
I think you are hanging between good and bad for longer periods so cant place the events and personalities in right place.
Although you didn’t say but I am quite sure that you are an ex army officer and it is your unlucky part that by chance in TPS you have encountered me who has passed her life in army setup and still watching their negative trends very closely.
Your first para gives all what I say and it is the reason I say that don’t use name of Pakistan as participant of war on terror ,it is game of few generals who misused the power of uniform and by passed the sentiments of people before escalation this war from northern mountains into our houses.
Now all houses of Islamabad , Rawalpindi, Peshawar and its nearby cities are vulnerable to attack any time.
People are passing their lives with tick of time bombs, don’t know when will it explode.
Army men see this situation in war fronts and they are trained for it.
But how untrained and unprepared civilians overcome this traumatize situation that is haunting them for last many years.
Middle and working class are under extreme mental pressures and daily threats as their all efforts of working for nation is going in vain.
If in this critical moments I give you details activities of few top army officers, their subordinates and their spouses and sibling then you would again try to twitch me because It all time hurt you a lot.
Now something about professional life of army men.
Your army procedure it self shows that it sheds its trained men at the prime age.
So you can take it as conclusion of performance of army men in decision making setup.
Yes in Pakistan, military related people got lot of opportunities of 2nd and3rd jobs and then business ventures which are indirectly related to institute of army.Dr Ayesha’s book has minutely and precisely explained this phenomena in excellent way in which she directly exposed them that how fixed companies are created by senior army men with their colleagues to get the orders of supply, procurement, construction, arms and equipment deals etc.
So when birds of feather flock together and have plenty of opportunities and funds from govt backing then all turn green for them.
I have many times given details of such games of friendships of army officers that how they get monetary benefits by illegally supporting each other.Sometimes they legalize this way of corruption by using the authority of senior officers in their favors.
Giving you pure civilian point of view on their professional and managerial skills that
Majority of them are basically slothful while living in culture of batmen and jcos.
As they are use-to of confined barrack life they cant handle civilian contingencies due to their ignorance and less interaction with civilians and always treat them as disorderly and disorganized creatures.
They feel very comfortable in army setup and army men of their taste because outer factors and private groups which do not influenced by army organization reveal and project their deficiencies without any hesitation so in army organization they move like lion and Private groups rarely hire army officers for crucial and technical jobs(I am talking about majority).
They even cant survive in foreign countries unless they run away from their post by earning money from illegal sources or on facing some charges ,other wise their survival rate in hardworking countries are very low.
so one thing is very common on them that they consider them most organized, disciplined and orderly fellows, which they are not .and facing straight forward people like me sometime created lot of disturbances in their Utopian life style .
If you had a time in Pakistan for tolerating/meeting person like me then you could have checked my availability through TPS. I had no problem of family meeting with open personalities but last month I was out of country too,
Although I have bad experience in net world but I can verify the credibility of strangers through my resources and and in these days tension mounting us is also keeping all in alert mode.
Any how even then I have lot of wordy conflicts with you but you can contact me through ghazla if you think I can help you in any way from here.
Nazia,
After leaving the army it is all a feeling of emptiness and to get past the feelings of emptiness one feels an utterly and complete loss of self and sense of identity. Army men are trained to feel invincible, and it may even have seemed that way at times, but a soldier may not get through combat without the help from the soldier next to him. They cannot make it through the confines of their minds without the help of others. They could not do it alone in combat so they do not think that it can make them successful alone today after their retirement?
The intensiveness of combat will never be matched in the civilian world, all the mundane things they did before seem totally a way to piss them off today. When faced with survival they let all the silly shit slough off and become one to get through with their new life.
In this mix they feel that a new blood pounds through the veins and thus receives a powerful sense of completeness that I still chase here while living abroad today and keep on reverting back to my bases to be among my collegues to recharge my self.
Nazia,
Any how I do strongly feel that what ever one may say about military and try to stick the label of their dictatorship on them but they were never on the helm of the affairs of this nation at their own that they were some power hungry horses that while trotting around they found an opportunity and grab the power and then they stayed there for good.
They have come on top when they were asked to come and to save the country—– only to put the ore of this nation right and for the repair of its steering gears. When they felt that this country was back on tracks then they have gone off.
Any how under the circumstances there is no chance of Army coming back soon. Let us look forward with the hope to have our better days in Pakistan and hopefully the leaders that we send forward to the parliaments are able to run this country. That they listen to the people demand and govern them successfully and that public may not be asking the military to come again.
And——there is one option available that if the public feels that our politicians are no good and they are so used to military and their peculiar handling of government; next time the military retired people be asked to come forward as civilian to run the affairs of this country. This lot is available in abundance. They will not be called ——dictator and may be able to run this nation in better and patriotic way. Not a bad idea….!
Khokar
Army people are so use to of confined barrack culture and hearing of yes sir yes sir rhythmic orders tune you in specific manner until you people become addicted to such fake respectable environment.
I watched that life very closely and consider it as deceptive way of isolated living.
my father and family men who were and are serving in army all time suffering this superiority complex of set apart of their tiny world of obsession.
In all public gathering they look for each other and always try to show different snobbish attitude than versatile civilians.
In Pakistan army officers are very lucky until they come in front of strong civilian set up otherwise a wide network of their community has been set up in all major cities of Pakistan including job opportunities and recreation facilities which keep them busy to satisfy their complex.Long military tenures have helped them to control all important departments in their range so they are actually living in bed of roses in this country as compared to other under developed countries.
So reason of emptiness is obvious as group of soldiers under your command is act like king’s army and one behave like king on these poor souls.
Civilian world doesn’t work on combat actions but goes for problem solving, contingency handling and problem foreseeing patterns.Their work is encircled on human comforts without creating differences and surely minimize the negative effects of differnt level of classes in one system.That is why in civilised countries even their enmeies want to go and settle there because of their high class human values
On the other hand all avoid to go to those country where militarism is dominant on civilian areas as it creates polarized culture among civil society.
For whom you want to come back and recharge yourself.Enemies are your people who are living next door to you so no military solution can put cold water on the angry sentiments of these mentally disturbed people.
I think from now on ward—-the chances of any other military era that Pakistanis are so accustomed with is—- over.
The time is ripe that from among the civilian creeds some real elite they come forward to serve this nation and set the examples.
Military establishment infected by dictatorial virus has been strongly rooted in our system and first step of its treatment has been started via free and fair judiciary.If we would be able to sustain this newly born revolution in our system of governance then it will help to end this virus in helms of establishment.
Nazia,
I will bear repeating it here that wearing of simply a Khaki uniform and to come atop to take charge of the government affairs may not make any one dictator.
It is the power that when it is centralized and is accumulated in one single person and that person starts using or abusing it—— primarily to save its own skin—— to prolong its stay in power and is said to be ‘the final say’ in all the affairs and that he starts rewarding all the dears and nears to maintain a defense circle of it own friends around him. Such person, may he be from Military or from a civil life is——- a dictator.
Military in Pakistan has never come in power at its own but when the politician after having failed and bringing this country at the verge of breaking— they wanted to get on one side and handed over to Military to take charge [1]——–to put the ores of this ship in order and repair its steering gears.
Musharraf —can be quoted as a prime example for all this that after taking over; although he took a reason able long time to make sure that every thing in order; the system and economy of country is vibrant and in ship shape. When every thing was seen in order; he laid red carpets for politician creed and asked them to come forward and take over to run this country—— on turn key bases. To make sure and make arrangments that back ends remain safe—- does not mean that military is leaving some virus to breed that they may catch up later.[2]
Zardari may not like to shed all the powers of a ‘Dictator’ accumulated in him as single person atop—-that the man was pushed to occupy the seat of President by virtue of it——of the sudden sad demise of Benazir.
But it is for sure that now any leader in Pakistan may survive atop who may bring the real service to this nation and that his or her excellence in services and leadership excel the examples set by military.
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[1] Hand over to Military-basically to fight the fire and to avail a time to leave for abroad for their luxurious break and eat of what all they have got gathered through pilferage and plundering.
[2] Mohabtoun main sada sey laga hey dharka sa
Keh koun, Khaan Rasta badal jaey !!!
Khokar
Liquat ali was killed on the spot.Still no clues who killed him
Fatima jinnah still declares as mother of nation was humiliated by a dictator by squeezing all hate from people’s sentiments and power from Pakistan’s legislation in day light fraud.
Bhutto was hanged in front of whole world against sentiments of people of Pakistan and army ruled unlawfully for 11 years.
IJI was political force but created and funded by ISI which further produced mushroom growth of mullah leaders in our soils.
Army control the major part of our GDPs and all are diverted in military regime from civil infrastructure to GHQ corridors.
The nearest crime of deliverance of NRO was created and protected in army houses to bring back declared absconders as politician of states.
So all these power centered decisions were made in GHQs and imposed on public on gun point.
oh sure some pawns are bought by seeing their level of greed to accompany these khaki wardis for pseudo system of governance.
This fake system is now comprising of mostly weak and run-down political characters who feel safe to call these khaki men for their help after worst performance.
Mr. Khokar,
It seems to be all your illusion. Can you explain why this adventure or service was done. You may find reality at bottom line in most simplified words that in romance and fear of US at large and as opportunity of personal gains at short. If you do not agree with then would you like to let us know how the general tried to justify his decision of becoming ally of US by giving co-operation of all sorts deceiving the people of Pakistan, how the war was brought inside Pakistan and how much wise decision was proved, what could have been easily avoid but was done to prove loyalty to master, what cost Pakistan and Pakistani people had paid in return. Should one draw your attentions towards various services or attempts to win US favors in the past which proved costly and fatal for Pakistan and People of Pakistan. Do you not think that Pakistan and people of Pakistan are in this condition because of unnecessarily and excessive resources utilization in military.