US Chasing Osama in FATA?
By The Pakistani Spectator • Aug 1st, 2008 • Category: Politics • 16 CommentsIs there any man or woman in the Government of Pakistan who could stand up and tell United States and its allies that, ‘Osama does not exist any more’ as reportedly claimed by Benazir Bhutto. Zaradri led government including Musharaf are so weak, compromised and scared of the US that they are in hurry as some one said, “Visit US before it visits you’. Well if US want to visit FATA then ‘so be it. Some people say let Yankees have a feel because people are not Red Indians here. US must get out of the mess not drown in it?
Pakistan’s relations with the US should be ‘SOLID BUT NOT SLAVISH’. Many say, ‘US don’t like history lessons from British and do things differently, one can only pray for humanity’. One Afghan leader said, ‘there are thousands ways to enter Afghanistan but there is only one-way out and that is ‘defeat’. Be it today tomorrow or day after tomorrow. Sir Hilary Synot told a gathering at International Institute of Strategic Studies in London something like, ‘some one asked me do you know Afghan experts, I said, ‘well there are many but unfortunately they are all dead’. Those young 19th century British experts of Afghanistan and FATA left huge treasures of information, which might be lying, in the basements of Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London? But Americans don’t like history lessons or don’t like history at all?
If ex ISI informer Hamid Karzai thinks Pakistan is not a true friend of Afghanistan then he should take his 2.5 million Afghan refugees back to Afghanistan living in Pakistan for thirty years. Seal the Pak – Afghan border become a proper President. There seems to be an element of mistrust and suspicion from the US side perhaps the US and allies are listening more to the Indian military advisors than they should. Many say, ‘Hamid Karzai is running Afghanistan like a Kebab shop where Indian halal meat is served with American alcohol as Vodka was banned long time ago’.
In 2008 Osama Bin Laden seems is like Iraqi WMDs, which does not exist any more and every one has forgotten about them? It does sounds like movies in which bad guys place a dead body in some one’s house and then prosecute the whole family for murder. Search for Osama in freezing K2 Mountains is like searching an elephant in a dark room by a blind man. Especially when one knows he does not exist anymore? Osama is a ghost salesman of Arms dealers, a trump card to blackmail states. As reported CIA keep tab on the health of the world leaders by urine testing and definitely keep DNA and fingerprints especially when they go for official receptions and tours etc.
Keeping in view the reports about Osama’s severe kidney problems and dialysis requirements it is highly unlikely for him to survive for long time. Even with the kidney transplant survival rate of the patient is very low and time frame is short in normal circumstances keeping in view the use of rejection drugs and severely weak immune system? Unless one is kept in a sophisticated high class renal unit of a big hospital with latest medical equipment and guaranteed power supply. It is impossible to have that kind of facility anywhere in the whole region including border areas of Pakistan and K2 mountains. Many analysts believe Osama is no more. If he is alive he will be arrested or found just before US elections in 2008. Well he has been helping Bush by releasing messages at times whenever his ratings were down?
There is another report which Bruce Boyle wrote on 30th December 2007, “By the way, I heard this from a call-in on C-span, and have not directly checked this out, “that in an interview with a famous British probably, Jewish journalist David Frost Benazir Bhutto said that Osama, ‘Bin Laden was assassinated at the end of 2002″ and “claimed she knew who did it, when, and how,” and suggested that the subsequent bin Laden videos and audio tapes (reportedly “released by Al Qaeda”) are, in fact, “high tech constructs and slick patch jobs produced by a third party.”
Every one knows that about the complete US intelligence failure on September 11, 2001 and who benefited out of those terrorists atrocities. Major beneficiary are Arms industry including a complete hold on huge job cuts at the Pentagon, which was due in September 2001. Criminals of September 11, 2001 incidents must be brought to justice in the court of law. Afghanistan was bombed and converted in rubble in search of one man created by the US to fight with the Soviets.
Interestingly when allies and US were sending arms to Afghans they were also sending payment invoices to the Saudis and Arab countries. It was not a bad deal at all, Afghans and US sponsored Muslim Mujahidin’s from all over the world were dying in Afghanistan to win the Cold War? Wars are also known to be good business and Americans are good at it.
In WWI 1914- 1918, according to available data 50,000 US soldiers lost their lives as compare to 500,000 British soldiers who were mostly from the colonies, France lost 1 million and Germany 1.2 millions. The estimated total allied costs were US $20 trillions + US $ 81 billions.
In 1913 just before the war started the total GDP of the US was US $39000 millions, which, by 1918 at the end of WWI rose up to US $770100 millions. In 1914 total value of US gold reserves was US $1526 millions; by 1918 the gold reserves valued were US $ 2873 millions.
Total expanses of WWII between September 1939 – August 1945 were US $925000 millions, United States US $335,000 millions, Germany US $272000 millions, Britain US $120,000 millions, Italy US $94000 millions, Japan US $56000 millions and France US $ 15000 millions.
It is important to remember that under the US law of ‘Land and Lease’, it provided loans to the war partners and received back with interests. US arms dealers become rich and richer. In 1937 US gold reserves were valued US $12390 millions and after three years of the war the gold reserves were valued US $24399 millions, the reason of this miraculous growth was because war partners including Britain had to pay in gold to pay off their debts.
If we look at the current rise in the oil and gold prices one can easily understand what is really going on. US companies have started signing with contracts with the Iraqis recently for more explorations not to mention Haliburtons moving its HQs in Dubai. It sounds like Iraqis and Afghanis are going to pay for the bombs dropped on them too?
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(Dr Shahid Qureshi is senior award wining investigative journalist and writer on security, foreign policy, and terrorism based in London – email: ukcorrespondent@hotmail.com)
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Very nice article indeed.
I just wanted to say that now Afghan refugees are more than 3.2 million. I impact of these refugees on Pakistan’s economy is very bad. If Karzai is so loving to Afghanis then he should first take them back and then talk to us.
TPS Admin: Keep posting such articles for us. I mean it.
Hi,
A very important post. But it forgot to mention that it is ISI which evacuated Osama through its helicopters in KUNDUZ. So it is this organisation under Musharaff at that time which killed him.Also at rightly pointed out the Osama tapes which appear from time to time are actually manufactured by ISI to help republicans win the elections. Now macain can win only with pseudo Osama capture or a fake bodybag with his DNA is shown to american people.
it forgot to mention that it is ISI which evacuated Osama through its helicopters in KUNDUZ. …… Please give proof first. ….
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Dear Saleem,
Who are the people evacuated by black unmarked helicopters from Kunduz with active cooperation from CIA? If not Osama, then whom?
Talk about a short-sighted post this is it. To begin with, Osama is not the only target, probably not even the main one, of operations in Afghanistan. At this point, if he is alive, he is weakened as a leader in his own ranks. Strategically speaking, in fighting ANY insurgency, rebel or terrorist group, there doesn’t have to be ‘victory’ as you define it. There only has to be destruction of the group you’re after. So whether Karzai stays or goes, or Afghanistan is united or not, or Pakistan likes the U.S. or not, are only secondary issues. What does matter is that the Taliban, Al-Queda, and Osama (pretty much in that order) are destroyed as groups that poise any threat. If you’re going to write about military situations you’d better learn some strategy.
It also discredits you totally when you let your racism dictate your writing. David Frost..”probably Jewish”…as though that discounts his skills as a journalist which by the way are levels way above yours. I don’t have a clue whether or not Frost is Jewish and it doesn’t matter if he is or not. His work as a journalist is untouchable.
Lastly, if you don’t like the U.S. that is fine. If you don’t want us as an ally that is fine. Pay us back the BILLIONS we give you all the time to prop up your broken economy and we’ll each go our own ways. No problem.
Jett,
Good of you to put people straight here; especially about David Frost. Pathetic but nothing new. Get use to hearing/reading such rhetoric when visiting this site and others from the Middle East to Pakistan. I do hope that you can also remind other readers in the West that, we all are not the Talibani or card carrying members of the Al-Qaeda. Both sides are guilty of ignorance.
Please do continue to contribute and share with us all your wisdom. We all need more dialogue for better understanding.
Regards
Jett,
Please take a look at this video; interview of David Frost with the late Benazir Bhutto suggesting that Osama Bin Laden being murdered:
Benazair Bhutto: Bin Laden was Murdered
I was reading a South Florida newspaper and reference was made to this video on You Tube.
Please do give your feedback, it will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Jett
Our policy is NO REFUND, NO EXCHANGE. Send some more Billion American Dollars, cheap fellow.
You get what you pay for. USA & Pakistan are Great friends for 60 years, and a friend in need is a friend indeed. Pakistan have done so much for USA, only for billions, they could’t get in done in trillions. Don’t behave like cheap boss. Friendship…………….
Dr. Alshaer,
Thanks for the kind words. Yes, you’re right, this kind of rhetoric is common place but it does people there and here a disservice by engaging in it. Don’t worry, I do stick up for Pakistani’s, and Moslems in general, on this end when I see they are the subject of similar prejudice.
I did look at the Bhutto ‘Bin Laden is Dead’ clip. I think I’d seen it before but awhile back. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bin Laden is dead but I think he probably isn’t. Having said that, like I mentioned before, if he is alive I doubt he wields the power he once did. Omar was always more dangerous in that respect and in a lot of ways smarter than Bin Laden. And it would benefit Omar to keep Bin Laden’s death a secret for several reasons. Some on this end might also want to keep it a secret but I suspect it would leak out here if someone knew that to definitely be the case because there are many more that would want people to know. Anyway, like I said earlier, the fight isn’t about one man.
Saeed -
U.S. and Pakistan are friends and I hope we remain that way. Seriously though, I’d be preparing to do without those billions. Whoever becomes the next President here is probably going to turn that flow of money from a steady current into a trickle.
Osama is a figurative term in the Myth, floated to run the ‘Global War on Terror’. There should be no illusion that our country; Pakistan has since opted to be part of this business as the enablers of myths to keep on weaving the suitable web. Pakistan is voluntarily acting as servitude to its master’s dictates and to be paid heftily in return.
The previous contract of 10 Billion Dollars with the end of Musharraf era is done with and dusted. New contract of 15 Billion Dollar has been accepted as the price for the same Job by the new Pakistani stooges planted on the scene.
Long live the Hypocrisy of Pakistanis’ which has many robes at hand, to wear. If we are not Hypocrite (which can safely be translated as ‘Bayghairat’)? Then why that ghairat does not show up in our conduct and character:
• Why it is not denied categorically that Osama does not exist in Pakistan?
• Why we do not declare that any body challenging the writ of Government in the settled districts in NWFP like Swat etc are the traitors?
• In FATA as per Pakistan constitution; Pakistan Government is suppose to enter into agreements with the Tribes only. Why it has become a common practice of entering into agreement with titly bitly groups?
• When any operation is taken up to establish writ; that it must end with the surrender of the rebels and their submission to the Constitution. Why forces always leave the job half way?
• Knowing it such that US lead NATO forces are all out to see this nation dwindle. Why that famous high held claim of traits of ‘Ghairat of Pathans’ does not come into play? They may be having millions of complaints against governments but why they fail to recognise the enemy moves and are seen as enemy abettors?
Dear Khokar Sahab,
welcome back on board. Where you were since long. Are you ok na? Keep writing and commenting on TPS because we miss our precious readers/writers when they seems away.
Take care and have a wonderful time.
Kind Regards,
Saleem Khan
Dear Saleem Khan,
Thank you very much for your kind concern. Very nice of you. I my self was feeling the absence a lot; but for my engagements here at the occasion of our UK- Annual Convention that it kept me away from the desk.
Any how I am back; all hale and hearty… and fully revitalized.
Once again thank you. May Allah bless you.
With the kindest regards
Sincerely yours
A Khokar
Dear Khoker
Mr. Gillani is my Prime Minister who was previously detained behind bars a year ago…You remember??
If we do not accept this amount anounced by America…then .. will you give any plan other than becoming taliban???..we all are bound to take this amount…can you understand plz…
You are giving impression simalirity between PPP and Dictators regimes…And please stop it. I do not accept becuase sipirt invested by shaheed’s blood in running through our bodies to make Pakistan beautiful.
I am PPP and look american involvement in our region as to kill most energatic youth of the area wether it is in Pakistan, Afghanistan, or in India.
Taliban elders have killed so many people that they also be treated as killers…thats all.
Love You all.
Dear Assad,
My earnest desire as a Pakistani, who lives some thousands of miles away from Pak Land, will be that present government is committed to establish the writ of government in all parts of Pakistan in tue spirit as per the dictates of constitution. That is all.
It is the same which I submitte earlier.
[Bus itna sa khawab hey]
4zTBBS comment6 ,