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]]> By: amit http://www.pakspectator.com/mukherjee-wait-for-retaliation/#comment-2961 amit Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:43:52 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/mukherjee-wait-for-retaliation/#comment-2961 India is forcefully occupying kashmir ???? when was kashmir part of pakistan or shown interest to be with pakistan ??? Have a look at history first .... Hari singh was the king when partition occured .. and he tried to remain independent ... neither with india nor with pakistan ... Indian respected his view but was trying to convince him not to go with islamic state .... suddenly so called "tribes" marched in kashmir area and within 2 days they got almost half of the kashmir (no prize for guessing where these tribes came from) .... desparate Hari singh sign the agreement with then home minister 'patel' that kashmir wud be the part of india and asked help from home ministry ...... Indian forces went to kashmir and started pushing those so called "tribes" back ..... then came the fatal blow of "peace loving" prime-minister Nehru ... he haphazardly asked the UN help for kashmir matter and untill then 1/3 rd of kashmir was still in the capture of "tribes" now called "pak occupied kashmir". Had Nehru used his brain and taken his time for one more day we were not facing this kashmir issue now .. but the irony is we cant change history. so be it. And almost all pakistani guys feel sympathy for kashmiri muslim that they were raped and murdered and butchered by "brutal army". This is like a folklore in pakistan ... but the fact is millions of "kashmiri pundits" forced to displaced from kashmir area (guess why they are forced to do so ?? .... just revert the story u guys have heard abt tyranny of indian army) . This was the time gov of india sent armed forces in kashmir to stop this migration ..... and every body knows the operandi of armed forced .... many cases of brutality of indian army start coming from kashmir ..... many of those army men got suspension and similar punishment .... Pakistan gov used this tactics of "terrorism" to migrate all those hindus so that when UN polling occur pakistan wud be in front seat and hoping that this way all kashmir wud be the part of pak ..... but what they got is immense hatred across kashmir for disturbing peace out there ..... no prize for guessing that now they are not in favor of UN polling either. I can't say anything ab't Afghanistan issue ... but kashmir was not actually pakistani defensive move ... contrary very offensive. What u say ab't "kargil war" btw ? India is forcefully occupying kashmir ???? when was kashmir part of pakistan or shown interest to be with pakistan ???

Have a look at history first ….
Hari singh was the king when partition occured .. and he tried to remain independent … neither with india nor with pakistan … Indian respected his view but was trying to convince him not to go with islamic state …. suddenly so called “tribes” marched in kashmir area and within 2 days they got almost half of the kashmir (no prize for guessing where these tribes came from) …. desparate Hari singh sign the agreement with then home minister ‘patel’ that kashmir wud be the part of india and asked help from home ministry …… Indian forces went to kashmir and started pushing those so called “tribes” back ….. then came the fatal blow of “peace loving” prime-minister Nehru … he haphazardly asked the UN help for kashmir matter and untill then 1/3 rd of kashmir was still in the capture of “tribes” now called “pak occupied kashmir”. Had Nehru used his brain and taken his time for one more day we were not facing this kashmir issue now .. but the irony is we cant change history. so be it.

And almost all pakistani guys feel sympathy for kashmiri muslim that they were raped and murdered and butchered by “brutal army”. This is like a folklore in pakistan … but the fact is millions of “kashmiri pundits” forced to displaced from kashmir area (guess why they are forced to do so ?? …. just revert the story u guys have heard abt tyranny of indian army) . This was the time gov of india sent armed forces in kashmir to stop this migration ….. and every body knows the operandi of armed forced …. many cases of brutality of indian army start coming from kashmir ….. many of those army men got suspension and similar punishment …. Pakistan gov used this tactics of “terrorism” to migrate all those hindus so that when UN polling occur pakistan wud be in front seat and hoping that this way all kashmir wud be the part of pak ….. but what they got is immense hatred across kashmir for disturbing peace out there ….. no prize for guessing that now they are not in favor of UN polling either.

I can’t say anything ab’t Afghanistan issue … but kashmir was not actually pakistani defensive move … contrary very offensive. What u say ab’t “kargil war” btw ?

]]> By: Liaqat Chaudhary http://www.pakspectator.com/mukherjee-wait-for-retaliation/#comment-2874 Liaqat Chaudhary Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:34:37 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/mukherjee-wait-for-retaliation/#comment-2874 somehow evil Pakistan invaded peace-loving India. It is complete BS. India is forcefully occupying Kashmir. We can argue the legality of that, but the bottom line is Kashmiri's in astounding proportions have, and have always wanted to be part of Pakistan or at least independent of India. India has continued a brutal occupation, with well documented rapes and killings of locals. They have over 70,000 troops stationed their to keep the Kashmiri's in check. Pakistan developed so-called terrorists to help these people who are considered Pakistani's. one thinks this is some nefarious plot. It's not. India is 10 times the size of Pakistan, we have never looked for a fight with them. All our wars with them have been defensive. But, as long as the Kashmiri's request our support, I think we are morally obligated to help them. Our nuclear program was not some nefarious plot either, as one implies, again defensive. Pakistan had to develop the bomb because India had the bomb. You can argue the logic of MAD, I understand that. Even the Taliban, Pakistan had an interest in a secure Afghanistan, and had the Taliban not been backed by the ISI, Afghanistan would have disintegrated into fiefdoms run by warlords who were drug dealers and murderers. Unfortunately, the Taliban were insane as well. somehow evil Pakistan invaded peace-loving India. It is complete BS. India is forcefully occupying Kashmir. We can argue the legality of that, but the bottom line is Kashmiri’s in astounding proportions have, and have always wanted to be part of Pakistan or at least independent of India. India has continued a brutal occupation, with well documented rapes and killings of locals. They have over 70,000 troops stationed their to keep the Kashmiri’s in check. Pakistan developed so-called terrorists to help these people who are considered Pakistani’s. one thinks this is some nefarious plot. It’s not. India is 10 times the size of Pakistan, we have never looked for a fight with them. All our wars with them have been defensive. But, as long as the Kashmiri’s request our support, I think we are morally obligated to help them. Our nuclear program was not some nefarious plot either, as one implies, again defensive. Pakistan had to develop the bomb because India had the bomb. You can argue the logic of MAD, I understand that. Even the Taliban, Pakistan had an interest in a secure Afghanistan, and had the Taliban not been backed by the ISI, Afghanistan would have disintegrated into fiefdoms run by warlords who were drug dealers and murderers. Unfortunately, the Taliban were insane as well.

]]> By: amit http://www.pakspectator.com/mukherjee-wait-for-retaliation/#comment-2796 amit Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:11:54 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/mukherjee-wait-for-retaliation/#comment-2796 stupid!! ... guys like u r spreading terror all around the globe and that too in the misconception of retaliation, pride, honor, and all those stupid things that only produce exactly opposite things.We too are suffering from this problem ... and mind u ... from years ... only now from past 2 3 years pakistan is facing this sort of crisis. So refrain from these kind of hate statements and think where things are getting out of control ... specially since these acts are totally indigenous as far as pakistan is concerned. Try to stop those human bomb making factories that were meant to destroy other nation .. but now only those have taken other route to shatter peace where these are being made. BTW ur establishment is doing some work against these crisis ..... shifting bases of these factories in bangladesh. Shame!! stupid!! … guys like u r spreading terror all around the globe and that too in the misconception of retaliation, pride, honor, and all those stupid things that only produce exactly opposite things.We too are suffering from this problem … and mind u … from years … only now from past 2 3 years pakistan is facing this sort of crisis. So refrain from these kind of hate statements and think where things are getting out of control … specially since these acts are totally indigenous as far as pakistan is concerned. Try to stop those human bomb making factories that were meant to destroy other nation .. but now only those have taken other route to shatter peace where these are being made. BTW ur establishment is doing some work against these crisis ….. shifting bases of these factories in bangladesh. Shame!!

]]> By: PC http://www.pakspectator.com/mukherjee-wait-for-retaliation/#comment-2791 PC Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:10:34 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/mukherjee-wait-for-retaliation/#comment-2791 Pakistan doesn't need India to break it down. We are doing it ourselves. Have you recently seen any Pakistani politician accusing India or creating terror. No they are blaming each other including ISI and Pak Army. BB did it even before she died. And on the comment "though Indian media is hell bent on clamouring that Pakistan is breakup up and decaying." Pls see what the bloggers write on other website for eg "Pakistaniat.com" It is from there that the Indian Media pick up their stories... Pakistan doesn’t need India to break it down. We are doing it ourselves. Have you recently seen any Pakistani politician accusing India or creating terror. No they are blaming each other including ISI and Pak Army. BB did it even before she died.

And on the comment “though Indian media is hell bent on clamouring that Pakistan is breakup up and decaying.” Pls see what the bloggers write on other website for eg “Pakistaniat.com” It is from there that the Indian Media pick up their stories…

]]> By: taban.khamosh http://www.pakspectator.com/mukherjee-wait-for-retaliation/#comment-2784 taban.khamosh Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:10:05 +0000 http://www.pakspectator.com/mukherjee-wait-for-retaliation/#comment-2784 Booo Hoo! What exactly should we expect from enemies? hot chocolate and a cuddle-fest? We need to end this eternal self-pity and need to get our own act together. Yeah, India is trying to break us up.. it's their job, we need to get over it. Also, Bangladesh was a completely pakistani F*KUP that India exploited. Good for them. Maybe we should get into a position of exploiting _their_ F*CKUPS.. oh wait, we really can't because our venerable secret services are busy getting the Kings party elected... and we can't manage to walk two feet without falling on our faces again.. Booo Hoo! What exactly should we expect from enemies? hot chocolate and a cuddle-fest? We need to end this eternal self-pity and need to get our own act together. Yeah, India is trying to break us up.. it’s their job, we need to get over it. Also, Bangladesh was a completely pakistani F*KUP that India exploited. Good for them. Maybe we should get into a position of exploiting _their_ F*CKUPS.. oh wait, we really can’t because our venerable secret services are busy getting the Kings party elected… and we can’t manage to walk two feet without falling on our faces again..

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