Karachi : People Fight Back, Burn Robbers
By Fatima Tassaduq • May 15th, 2008 • Category: Misc, Worth A Second Look • (3,914 views) • 12 CommentsWhen the people see that there is no supremacy of law and constitution in the country, they start taking cue from the tribal laws. They start giving punishment themselves. When people see that no dictator was ever punished for hijacking the mandate of the people, and when people see that a policemen is dragging chief justice of the country by the hair and there was no one to apprehend him, they know what their status and plight is.
People of Pakistan has no trust whatsoever on the police and on the current judiciary of Pakistan. They know that if police arrests any criminal, then either he will be released without any punishment without going to court, or he will exploit any legalese and cajole the court and would be out on bail in no time, doing the same evil things.
In Karachi; dacoities, kidnapping, murders, mobile and car snatching and other crimes have increased many many folds. People have been suffering through these criminals like hell and there is no respite for them. The situation is that in the Lyari area, Rehman Dacait, who has got the support of PPP has taken over the area and he runs that area with his force. In Shah Faisal Colony, Nazimabad, Landhi, Korangi and other areas, MQM’s armed groups take care of the law and order situation. Police is as useless in Karachi as anything.
In a gory incident of “vigilante justice”, people of Rinchor Line, Timber Market Karachi burned three robbers alive. These robbers were escaping after looting a flat, when people overpowered them and after beating them severely they burned them with petrol.
What to say of this?
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May 15th, 2008
تشدد کا ضابطہ
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2008/05/080515_wusat_violence_ra.shtml
May 15th, 2008
If acts like this can help eradicate these evils I would always support such acts. But would they make any difference?
May 16th, 2008
This is a brutal act of fascism, criminal mindedness, inhuman approach, with expression of attitude towards cruel advancement.
Fatima I think supporting such retaliation expresses, ones like and dislikes and caliber of thoughts to be defined in the contest of crime.
Similarly definition of Karachi in the contest of crime and particular targeting of mentioned political forces indicates your intensive reservation against the two and also discloses your probable affiliation and bias attitude.
Fatima, there are verbal and bodily move that discloses persons where about as new comer. this approach of idea has clearly disclosed that you have no previous or present affiliation with Karachi whatsoever .although I wanted to get in to this discussion of particular targeting but this will carry beyond the theme of article as such, I reserve my comments and would simply say that Karachi with its 5 major district<W<S<N<C and similarly Malir district etc, have similar ethnic parties that have same influence over the administration or infact more influence over the administration.
Reverting discussion to the topic, ranchore line is affiliated area of liyari, bohra pir, densely populated with makrani baloch; however business community is from Bori Jaat in majority. These makrani traditionally, are illiterate but are poor class of people with humble attitude as service man .however due to due to poor economic and social background, the area is being targeted by every means and manner of corruption from drug deal to brothel houses .similarly the said area was the ever winning constituency of mohtarma Benazir Bhutto.
As to your dragging of current scene in to the contest of judiciary and rule of law, I think this statement have not been stated sanely .such an attitude by any one can never be owned .you see globally it is being in conduction to isolate mode by which person subjected to death award could be managed with minimum expect of painful episode or should be curtailed so to remove in human act. Similarly there are defined modes in Islam for death against death and theft to rape. such height of brutality to deliberately burn some one is peak of exorcism and behavioral definition of whole community at large as people like you who being a female is expected to be to modest, and with well known built in feminine attitude of traits, if exercising the expression in to legalize terminology, then in my opinion, the society has reached the height of crime and brutality.
May 16th, 2008
So your ‘pragmatic’ solution to the issue of these looting and robberies in Karachi is to take the law in your own hands and either burn, shoot, hang, or bleed to death those responsible?
Bravo!
I pity you
May 16th, 2008
oh and please don’t drag in the usual political slogans like hijacking people’s mandate or dragging the hero of Pakistan aka the FORMER CJP. This is a completely isolated incident of a mob driven by frustration and acting in a barbaric way. Period!
May 16th, 2008
That was a bit non professional Raza for being so personal in your comments! I understand your anger but still i don’t think you should get personal in your comments. And fauzan why don’t we feel pity for the people who get killed for resisting a mobile snatcher? Generally the worth of those mobiles is around 5000! So that is the price at which they value humans! I will never have mercy for such killers at least.
Regards
May 16th, 2008
It is true that robberies and looting including all other street crimes have increased to a level just beyond endurance for people of Karachi and every citizen is affected by these criminals. As all law-abiding citizens have expected the government to provide protection to the lives and properties of its citizens which is one of the basic duties of government, any government. The common man in Karachi is frustrated by this lawlessness and the result is this incident of “self-justice”. It is not a thing to be rejoiced or justified, it’s a very serious signal for anarchy and must be curtailed right now. We are a civilized society with rules, regulations and laws to deal with such and other crimes; its time that the Rule of Law must prevail. Our personal sense of justice and mercy should have no role to play in public domain - the law must take its own course.
May 17th, 2008
can’t forget how the ‘angry mod’ burnt the KFC outlet in gulshan and 6 people burned to death inside.. who brought them to justice anyway?? so where’s the hope?!? our present politicians are busy settling their personal grudges before they start looting the country once more.. where’s the hope again!?!?
May 17th, 2008
Burning is punishment only Allah can give. It is sad to see such a severe punishment which transgresses into shirk.
Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:
Narrated ‘Ikrima:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn ‘Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
May 17th, 2008
I do agree that citizens should not take law and order responsibility in their hand. They should follow proper channel BUTTTT question arises that from whom they learn this practice… As child learns from father or mother…same is case with society…common man learns from leaders… If leaders are acting every thing unconstitutionally for their survival then its common man right also to safe guard their rights by their own power.
Second thing is Police… I saw one program few months back in which one official was giving figures of Police in Karachi… He was telling that total population of Karachi is 11.86 million… Police force is approximately 22,000. Out of this 22,000 policemen, 17,500 approz is giving duties with VIP’s of Karachi (Government officials, Chief Ministers, Ministers and Governor etc). So 4,500 poilcemen are left for serving 11.86 million Citizens 24 hours ( 2,250 for 12 hrs). please work out average and you will find how effective and efficient they are working. In such situation, some one else has to take care of innocent people… either it mob or political party forces.
Sir, you are criticizing Karachi citizens…do you know who defended Lebanon when Israel attacked on them… Not Lebanon Army… Civil force has defended without taking any incentive from Government. If you can’t provide safety to the people then opportunity is there to fill this gap… either by Mobb or politician Parties guys.
If you will start giving INSAAF ( Justice) on rapid basis then you won’t find these actions from Civilians.. after all who want to take law and order in his hands… so one forces him so much that he reacts and that time is the time which our Leaders must feel. If this mob can kill Robbers…tomorrow they can kill Them also. Do you think that 6 Lack Army will able to stop them… No Sir.
Its my request to authorities and Government to sense the pain of common man. Try to govern in the interest of common man. Otherwise I’m seeing that this is the start and this war will not end soon.
May 17th, 2008
dear fatima and all please see the remarks was not to personalise or target ,if it has been perceiced the other way round ,please forgive me as perhaps i could not make you understand.my point was not to criticise the retaliation of the mob but ,it was to criticise the brutality of the act .please see in photo people are standing around the burning bodies ,may it be any one .how can one carry out same practice as legal and mode of punishment that may gratitude or or provide master piece of work.
this is extra ordinary criminal approach that indicate that people have gone far above in their mentality that now things can be forecasted in any manner of criminal assaults.
May 18th, 2008
Dr Raza, do u even live in karachi?
do u have any idea what the situation has become over here? street crimes, theft, murders on resistance have increased enormously. A person can’t leave his house without the fear of losong his belongings and hard earned money! These robbers mercilessly kill people -young or old- without hesitance for a mere Rs.1000. Do you have any idea how many ppl have been murdered- killed heartlessly, shot in the heart, head, stomach just because they resisted handing over the money or cell phones tht they got after working hard! Alot of families have lost their only financial support because of these thieves- Wives widowed, chilren orphaned, parents lost their sons! And the only thing the police does is register an FIR and flat out says ‘oh we’ll look into the matter’ but those cases just lie in their files. Did u see the difference here, the police is never able to arrest culprits involved in crimes but when those culprits were punished by the public, the police wasted no time at all in ‘looking into it’ and arresting suspects. The police here are themselves involved in these crimes and support these robbers because of which they get the courage to perform these heinous acts with courage and confidence.
I do agree that burning them was wrong, I am not a supporter of that. All I am saying is the public has become frustrated and angry. This is also a result of the rising inflation- be it food inflation or any other. The majority of population belong to the low income bracket group who are not even able to support thier families properly. They work day and night just so tht they can provide for them and it all goes away in a flash leaving them hopeless and shattered. They are tired of waiting for justice and when the justice system itself is corrupt, then who should the ‘awaam’ go to to for thier protection and security? The public has lost patience. There is a limit to everything in this world and when sumthing nbecomes unbearable, then ppl lose thier minds and dont think about what’s right and what’s wrong. They’ve been blinded with the want of revenge!
As far as Islam is concerned, according to my knowledge, the punishment for a thief is to cut both his/her wrists, be it a small or a big theft.
I normally dont share views like this but felt doing so here as I have been reading these thefts and murders stories in newspapers for the past 3-4 years and always wondered whe all this would come to an end and when the police would finally wake up and control all this. Maybe the rest of the public was also waiting but reached the limit of thier patience level. That is also how democracy ame into being right? When ppl were not given thier rights, they stood up for them decided to do something themselves so that they could bring about a change!
I do condemn the burnings but I understand the perception of the public as well. These thieves would think twice before even thinking about looting some helpless person. I don’t want to convince or force anyone to agree with me, because I believe every person has thier own perception and outlook. i have only shared mine.
May Allah grant everyone wisdom!