I can Write a book, quote you from Quran, and quotes from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, but it won’t make any differance to you. I advise you to practice your religion, and Allah may fogive you for your good deeds. Over one billion Muslims, and our Quran and Rasool will not accept you as Muslims, simple as that. No matter how hard you try, play the blame game, lie, cry, use propaganda, read Kalma and say Salam, Alhumdullilah, You will stay Non Muslim. This is the Reality, you must accept it, as your ullma did in National Assembly of Pakistan. As a good Mirzai I have no problem with you, I have Ahmadi friends like you. Please do some soul searching, and accept Islam. It’s my duty to invite you in Islam.
Before I finish just one refernce fro TRUE ISLAM
As Muslims we all BELIEVE, in last KHUTBA of PROPHET MOHAMMED pbuh ( DO YOU BELIEVE IN IT ? ) if not than what you believe in We all know:

The Last Sermon of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH
People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born

The last sermon of the Prophet-peace be upon him- is known as Khutbatul Wada’.
O People
Lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefor listen to what I am saying to you very carefully and take these words to those who could not be present here today.
O People
Remember one day you will appear before Allah and answer for your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone. People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well therefore, O people, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Quran and the Sunnah (Hadith), and if you follow these you will never go astray. All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listened to me directly. Be my witness, O Allah, that I have conveyed your message to your people.”

End Of the Discussion, you insist so I replied. If you have more question Please study, both religion throughly, with deep understanding. ” Inna wi biba nai ”

and Allah Knows the best

So far in all my comments I follow my instinct, what ever comes to my mind I type it fast, and deliver.
Because sometime conscious deliberations are “merely tentative” and “show a far lower standard of morality” in comparison to action directed by instincts.

Perfection does result from instinctual action; genius resides in instinct; goodness likewise. One acts perfectly when one acts instinctively. Even from the viewpoint of morality, all conscious thinking is merely tentative.
Soon I will start following THE RULES
I would like your opinion on my ( instinctively act )comments on Sheikh Aziz Murder, if you wish so.

Regards

Although the author of the article may prefer that subject discussion may not go beyond his suggested theme, i.e. ‘Every Benazir has a Zardari’ but since you have said some thing that who could be a Muslim?
So I must say that as per Islamic recognised definitions that I know; any one who bears the basic tenet of Islam and believes in the unity of God and in the last prophet as His Messenger and bearer of the Book – Quran is a Muslim or say any one who declares that; ‘I bear witness that there is no God but God and Prophet Muhammad (saw) is the servant and the messenger of God’ is a Muslim. No one has the right or any institution or any other worldly orgnisation has the prerogative to come in between God and the man declaring this credo of Islam or may give any verdict other wise.

With the best of Regards.

You have rightly said:

“I have no problem what faith they believe in, because “there is no compultion in religion”
The real issue is they preach Ahmadiyya Faith, in name of Islam, and it’s totally not accepable. ”

Indeed there is no compulsion in religion and I hope the people of the Ahmadiyya understand this. If they rightly believe they are right, let them continue, but not in the name of Islam. This is where the problem comes forth. They need not be concerned in “saving” us from hell-fire and believe me, most Muslims will be happy if they take this juncture.

The rest I have already said. Rights of people should be protected, no matter what faith they believe or practice. Throughout in the early history of Islam, it is well documented of the protection given to non-Muslims.

Lets try to remained focused on the subject of this article. Certainly, the other subject can be discussed on another article here on this site.

Regards

As claimed by Ahmadiyya website
The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is a religious organization, international in its scope, with branches in over 189 countries in Africa, North America, South America, Asia, Australia, and Europe. This is the most dynamic denomination of Islam in modern history, with worldwide membership exceeding tens of millions.

The Ahmadiyya Community was established in 1889 by Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908) in a small and remote village, Qadian, in the Punjab, India. He claimed to be the expected reformer of the latter days, the Awaited One of the world community of religions (The Mahdi and Messiah). The Community he started is an embodiment of the benevolent message of Islam — peace, universal brotherhood, and submission to the Will of God — in its pristine purity. Hadhrat Ahmad proclaimed Islam as the religion of man: “The religion of the people of the right path” (98:6)

With this conviction, the Ahmadiyya Community, within a century, has reached the corners of the Earth. Wherever the Community is established, it endeavors to exert a constructive influence of Islam through social projects, educational institutes, health services, Islamic publications and construction of mosques, despite being bitterly persecuted in some countries. Ahmadi Muslims have earned the distinction of being a law-abiding, peaceful, persevering and benevolent community.

The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in Islam was created under divine guidance with the objective to rejuvenate Islamic moral and spiritual values. It encourages interfaith dialogue, and diligently defends Islam and tries to correct misunderstandings about Islam in the West. It advocates peace, tolerance, love and understanding among followers of different faiths. It firmly believes in and acts upon the Qur’anic teaching: “There is no compulsion in religion.” (2:257) It strongly rejects violence and terrorism in any form and for any reason.

Your comments at number 18 and 19 above refer

I extend my heartiest regards for your kind concern mentioned in above comments. It clearly shows that there are some difficult days for Ahamidiyya community living in bulk in Chenab Nagar-Rabwah lying ahead for them. The purposed actions are invariably designed to persecute the vulnerable out of the envy. But you know it is God’s design; when ever the Dawah of word of God, some how starts slowing down; there always erupts a tremor of some kind to give a jolt or to prick the inner conscious of men.

Ahmadiyya movement is totally aware of it that how the snooze is being tightened around them; but you know when these thing goes to extreme and not only the victim but others start also become weary of it; that in turn it makes the reality known and thus the truth is recognised. People are never drawn to word of God just like that; there are always a strong motivations and sacrifices working behind that; this is the way of Allah that how His word get recognised.

Obaid ullah Aleem says;
‘Oas kay naam peh marain khanna ub Ehzaz Humar’.
Aur kissi ki yeh Izzat, ooqat naheen Deykhi

In the present days; this is only Ahmadiyya movement’s specific honour bestowed by God Almighty to them; that they be persecuted in His name, while they glorify the name of God and truth is thus known and gets its due recognition. Quran says in Al-Nasr that [110;2] ‘And thou seest men entering the religion of Allah in troops..’

Let us promote the true character of God Almighty in our lives and our societies; where ever we are, that God is Love and Just and lets us keep God at first place.

[Likhee nahean woh baat; oas ki nahean joe bat]

Regards

Zardari: yes, it is like— ‘Devil preaching the Gospel.’

I am aware of these issues, though I was not aware of some of the facts presented in the article. The people that Kunwar Idrees is referencing to is of the Ahmadiyya faith? Personally, I have no issues with people practicing different faiths and their rights should be protected.

I would ask of you to maybe write an article on this site to address or open up a separate place to discuss this here on TPS. As you rightly know, this is a delicate subject and we all need to be fair. I am open for dialogue and if you know my views, I am quite harsh when it comes down to people being abused. More facts need to be presented, before I can say anything else on this subject. This is the same way, I was with the Aafia Siddiqui case initially.

The prison Mr. Idrees referenced is I believe going to be a total of five new prisons in Punjab. I read about these new prisons while back and I understand this was to upgrade the living conditions of the prisoners. This has been in the works for a while, based upon from the article I read.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

I look forward to our upcoming discussions.

Regards