well, regarding tanzeel, I ‘d got the impression that He is She still um i guess you are wrong cos it’s a male name.. .

anyhow, I have read his blogs and he proudly claims to be called secular. . many people call themselves secular without understanding its true meanings. . Those who call themselves secular are actually negating the religion.

You quoted some verses from the holy Quran but you forgot again what I said in my earlier post that we start interpreting Islam without understanding the basic principles. Its very important to learn from some scholar rather than misinterpreting, also there is always a much deeper message than mere in the meanings, and which we people often misinterpret too.

I have studied religion and have learnt what just shared with you.

Perhaps you might not believe my words but ask some religious scholar any one u trust. . they wont ever say that this is an Islamic culture.

Do you call it Islamic culture where on the name of fashion vulgarity is promoted? After all fashion like thing is not encouraged in Islam . . . if fashion mean adorning oneself (in fact fashion have more horrible meanings today) which is in case of a women must only be for her husband so making up herself other than for husband is strictly prohibited.

What is this TV dramas, films, stage dramas. . . mixed gathering etc etc is strictly forbidden in islam. .

Prof. Dr. Qibla Ayaz is a great scholar I was attending his lecture, when I was doing BS. He clearly stated that it is forbidden for women to dress up the way men (other than her husband) are attracted to them. But what women do?? Ask yourself . . .

Culture reflects the life style of people . . . and the life style is mainly governed by the way one dress up . Do u believe that what people wear in Pakistan is Islamic dress. Is this dopatta culture Islamic? Do u know the history of this?

Is these transparent, see through, tight and sleeveless shirts representative of Islamic culture. Madam you have got a very different definition for the Islamic culture.

People of all religions agree on the need to cover themselves in public. Yet we also find a force that promotes nudity. Large segments of humanity are caught between two impulses: to cover or not to cover. Our clothing designs reflect different levels of compromise between these opposing forces.

The Holy Quran contains seven verses altogether concerning Hijaab, three of these are featured within the surah Noor and four in surah Ahzaab

ALLAH states in the Holy Quran:

“And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornments except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband’s fathers, their son’s, their husband’s sons, their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sisters sons or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And beg Allah to forgive you all O believers, that you may be successful.”

This is a Muslim law. We do not even obeying the law and you are talking about the Islamic culture.

Sister

You did not get my earlier comment it was that every one start defining Islam in one’s own ways which absolutely wrong.

Hijaab is a the basic criteria defined for a Muslim woman and she must observe. In Shari‘ah the word means to completely hide one’s self from the view of the ghair mahram. (A man with whom marriage is permissible) The normal and general rule of Hijaab is total seclusion and segregation between males and females (non-mahrams).

Any society you ever imagine to be Islamic must observe this very tradition of Islam. At present Saudi Arab and Iran, to some extent, represent a true Muslim society, and anyone who have doubts about the hijjab, actually doubts one’s religion.

the point here is saudi rules are strictly according to the islamic ideology and those who critiscie perhaps do not understand the true essence of Islam. yea i agree the society might have some evils but law is very islamic and according to their sect.

I assume you might watch tv, and might be spending some time on factious dramas , false news and discussions of crooks politicians it is better to switch to peace tv and start learning our religion.

regards

15. Behold ye received it on your tongues and said out of your mouths things of which ye had no knowledge; and ye thought it to be a light matter, while it was most serious in the sight of Allah.
16. And why did ye not when ye heard it say? “It is not right of us to speak of this: Glory to Thee (our Lord)! this is a most serious slander!”
17. Allah doth admonish you, that ye may never repeat such (conduct) if ye are (true) Believers.
18. And Allah makes the Signs plain to you: for Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.
19. Those who love (to see) scandal published broadcast among the Believers, will have a grievous Penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: Allah knows and ye know not.
20. Were it not for the grace and mercy of Allah on you, and that Allah is full of kindness and mercy, (ye would be ruined indeed).
21. O ye who believe! follow not Satan’s footsteps: if any will follow the footsteps of Satan he will (but) command what is indecent and wrong: and were it not for the grace and mercy of Allah on you not one of you would ever have been pure: but Allah doth purify whom He pleases: and Allah is One Who hears and knows (all things)

would you be able to define an islamic culture. . . i understand you won’t ever. lets suppose for the sake of argument you can define, then how will it be?

what is going on in saudi is part of arab culture, i agree but is this culture against what islam says? have you ever studied religion? how much??

Remember you study for four long years to get a small degee, say, in economics or any other subject. but do u learn everything about the subject after studying hard for four years??

as a matter of fact, No!

Did you ever notice that becoming a mechanic one spends 10 year in a workshop to become adept or at least understand what the seniers are doing. . .

Do you know it take 4,5 years hard struggle to understand the art of sewing or at least sewing in the proper way. . . . keep in mind all these things.

and then ask yourself how much have u studied in a proper way ur religion. . you haven’t i know then how can you remark over a thing which you do not know about??

sisters,

This is a menace today that every second person, even not knowing the basics of religion, start talking about the most senstive and complicated issues.

my sisters, do you one thing?

There is nothing like that in Islam, radical muslim, extremist muslim, moderate muslim, secular muslim or whatever. . .

in Islam there is no such cetegories for muslim either you are muslim or not a muslim at all., right?
those who follow the teachings of Islam or at least accepting it with all senses are muslims or otherwise. (in fact taqwa is something different)

and before i forget please read sura Noor and try to understand it then perhaps we might discuss it further in simpler words.

thank you.

I would also want you to write for my blog as well, would you ?