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	<title>Comments on: CNG Price Rs 22 / Kilogram</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Saleem Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-85873</link>
		<dc:creator>Saleem Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNG price per kilo is likely to be further cut down after amendment in OGRA Ordinance by the parliament.

Oil market sources said that the recent talks held between CNG associations and the government had materialized in reductions in Sindh and Punjab prices by Rs2.75 only, while in NWFP and Balochistan by Rs4.00 per kilo. CNG guidelines had estimated price cut down by Rs8.00 per kilo, but it actually didn’t happen as expected. Sources said that the prices are likely to be further reduced after the amendment in OGRA Ordinance was carried out by the parliament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNG price per kilo is likely to be further cut down after amendment in OGRA Ordinance by the parliament.</p>
<p>Oil market sources said that the recent talks held between CNG associations and the government had materialized in reductions in Sindh and Punjab prices by Rs2.75 only, while in NWFP and Balochistan by Rs4.00 per kilo. CNG guidelines had estimated price cut down by Rs8.00 per kilo, but it actually didn’t happen as expected. Sources said that the prices are likely to be further reduced after the amendment in OGRA Ordinance was carried out by the parliament.</p>
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		<title>By: Saleem Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-85850</link>
		<dc:creator>Saleem Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-85850</guid>
		<description>Mistake...in third line of first para; it is like this....There are news that they will NOT go in price war again and will start increasing prices by making excuse that Rupee is getting weaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mistake&#8230;in third line of first para; it is like this&#8230;.There are news that they will NOT go in price war again and will start increasing prices by making excuse that Rupee is getting weaker.</p>
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		<title>By: Saleem Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-85847</link>
		<dc:creator>Saleem Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-85847</guid>
		<description>Cartel is existing not only in CNG... it exists in Milk Pack companies, Sugar companies, Cement companies, Broad band companies, and you will soon expect the same in Telecom companies. There are news that they all will go in price war again and will start increasing prices by making excuse that Rupee is getting weaker. 

You know, who supports these cartels... Government Regulatory Authorities. One true example; Nestle Milk was selling Milk pack Re.1/- per Litre always lower than Haleeb Milk, before 2005 to compete in the market but was not successful due to customers loyalties with Haleeb Milk. A regulatory authority came into being...It imposed on all companies that no body can sell below their fixed price after getting bribery from one company. In 2007, 2 new companies came in the market but they were compelled to sell their milk at same rate and they are still struggling.

How we can facilitate end user by making cartel and encouraging them to do it. It is just like.. people are imposed to give more taxes so we can bear expenditures of these regulatory authorities and mean while..these regulatory authorities sets price flooring after getting bribery from strong group in the said industry. That again results in high prices for end users. What is the real benefit of these regulatory authorities, if they are here to fill their stomachs and no body is bothering to ask them from government also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cartel is existing not only in CNG&#8230; it exists in Milk Pack companies, Sugar companies, Cement companies, Broad band companies, and you will soon expect the same in Telecom companies. There are news that they all will go in price war again and will start increasing prices by making excuse that Rupee is getting weaker. </p>
<p>You know, who supports these cartels&#8230; Government Regulatory Authorities. One true example; Nestle Milk was selling Milk pack Re.1/- per Litre always lower than Haleeb Milk, before 2005 to compete in the market but was not successful due to customers loyalties with Haleeb Milk. A regulatory authority came into being&#8230;It imposed on all companies that no body can sell below their fixed price after getting bribery from one company. In 2007, 2 new companies came in the market but they were compelled to sell their milk at same rate and they are still struggling.</p>
<p>How we can facilitate end user by making cartel and encouraging them to do it. It is just like.. people are imposed to give more taxes so we can bear expenditures of these regulatory authorities and mean while..these regulatory authorities sets price flooring after getting bribery from strong group in the said industry. That again results in high prices for end users. What is the real benefit of these regulatory authorities, if they are here to fill their stomachs and no body is bothering to ask them from government also.</p>
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		<title>By: Farid Masood</title>
		<link>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-85689</link>
		<dc:creator>Farid Masood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-85689</guid>
		<description>CNG price reduced, reduced by less than Rs 4.00 per kg, but was risen up by Rs 13 Kg. It seems that government and CNG seller has created a cartel now against the consumer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNG price reduced, reduced by less than Rs 4.00 per kg, but was risen up by Rs 13 Kg. It seems that government and CNG seller has created a cartel now against the consumer.</p>
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		<title>By: Farid Masood</title>
		<link>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-79563</link>
		<dc:creator>Farid Masood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-79563</guid>
		<description>http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1100465032&#38;Issue=NP_LHE&#38;Date=20080816</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1100465032&amp;Issue=NP_LHE&amp;Date=20080816" rel="nofollow">http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1100465032&amp;Issue=NP_LHE&amp;Date=20080816</a></p>
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		<title>By: Farid Masood</title>
		<link>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-59883</link>
		<dc:creator>Farid Masood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-59883</guid>
		<description>Talha Lodhi 

The price of CNG station pwners pay for license issuance is recoverable by this percentage, I have also got a feasibility study for setting up a CNG station shows the 2.5 crore Rupees is the cost of American machinery, you may add land cost and license issuing commission ost which is from Rs 3500000 to 5000000. Why government will persue the case of reducing price / kg. if so will any prospect CNG station applicant pay commission?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talha Lodhi </p>
<p>The price of CNG station pwners pay for license issuance is recoverable by this percentage, I have also got a feasibility study for setting up a CNG station shows the 2.5 crore Rupees is the cost of American machinery, you may add land cost and license issuing commission ost which is from Rs 3500000 to 5000000. Why government will persue the case of reducing price / kg. if so will any prospect CNG station applicant pay commission?</p>
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		<title>By: Talha Lodhi</title>
		<link>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-59832</link>
		<dc:creator>Talha Lodhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-59832</guid>
		<description>Farid

The idea of govt running CNG stations or setting them up may seem ridiculous (it even does sound so to me) but the fact is if u cut down the comission from 45% to 15-20% no one would be willing to set a CNG station up for initial investment for doing so is too high.

Also well 15% also is not what the CNG cartel will accept and well I would not object to their rejection too for they are in it for business and not on humanitarian grounds.

Saleem:

The tax on Petroleum products ranges from 100-150%of the price...........and the so-called subsidy given by the GOvt is by letting go of some tax and not that they are paying the price from their own kitty.

The reason why they are saying that subsidy be removed is because, Pakistan not being such a great industrial/agricultural/tourist country doesnot have the resources to make its ends meet other than from taxation!!!!!

Therefore the rise in Pertoleum products will continue to be so for the subsidy is going to be removed for now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farid</p>
<p>The idea of govt running CNG stations or setting them up may seem ridiculous (it even does sound so to me) but the fact is if u cut down the comission from 45% to 15-20% no one would be willing to set a CNG station up for initial investment for doing so is too high.</p>
<p>Also well 15% also is not what the CNG cartel will accept and well I would not object to their rejection too for they are in it for business and not on humanitarian grounds.</p>
<p>Saleem:</p>
<p>The tax on Petroleum products ranges from 100-150%of the price&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..and the so-called subsidy given by the GOvt is by letting go of some tax and not that they are paying the price from their own kitty.</p>
<p>The reason why they are saying that subsidy be removed is because, Pakistan not being such a great industrial/agricultural/tourist country doesnot have the resources to make its ends meet other than from taxation!!!!!</p>
<p>Therefore the rise in Pertoleum products will continue to be so for the subsidy is going to be removed for now!</p>
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		<title>By: Mohsin Mahmood</title>
		<link>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-58963</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohsin Mahmood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-58963</guid>
		<description>WITH REFERENCE TO COMMENTS FROM MR SALEEM KHAN:

Respected sir i totally agree with your perspective and i was amazed to see the numbers which you presented. Technically on every Kg of Gas that goes into our car tanks we are paking almost Rs.29 worth of tax exclusive of the actual cost of Gas.

Yes the prices have increased in the global markets and yes there is high inflation in thisregion with india right now standing on almost 11% of monthly inflation but have things gone so bad in Pakistan that our this month's inflation rate is almost 20%? Also the Asian region has seen a shortfall in crop production and has seen an increae in demand, yet again i have to ask are things that bad that people have to fight for the basic necessities of life? Why isnt the government taking responsibility of the surging gas and petroleum prices? why are we "the people" paying Rs.27 in taxes for every Kg of gas? and why isnt the government taking responsibility of the smuggling of wheat into neighbouring countries and why isnt the government stopping it?

In one of his recent interviews Mr. Mushahid Hussain (Secretary PML Q) pointed towards the fact that this countires middle class has tremendously grown in intellect and now understands the issues which it is facing and the country is facing.

Our politicians are pressing, destroying and eradicating the only class which can make a notceable difference in this country. The middle class in my point of view is the most effected class by these recent changes. Our politicians through systematic are over burdening us under problems, issues, taxes so we loose our ability to think freely and to challenge them.

People its time we take this countries future in our hand and we make our governments answerable to us.

May Allah have mercy on us and our country. Ameen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WITH REFERENCE TO COMMENTS FROM MR SALEEM KHAN:</p>
<p>Respected sir i totally agree with your perspective and i was amazed to see the numbers which you presented. Technically on every Kg of Gas that goes into our car tanks we are paking almost Rs.29 worth of tax exclusive of the actual cost of Gas.</p>
<p>Yes the prices have increased in the global markets and yes there is high inflation in thisregion with india right now standing on almost 11% of monthly inflation but have things gone so bad in Pakistan that our this month&#8217;s inflation rate is almost 20%? Also the Asian region has seen a shortfall in crop production and has seen an increae in demand, yet again i have to ask are things that bad that people have to fight for the basic necessities of life? Why isnt the government taking responsibility of the surging gas and petroleum prices? why are we &#8220;the people&#8221; paying Rs.27 in taxes for every Kg of gas? and why isnt the government taking responsibility of the smuggling of wheat into neighbouring countries and why isnt the government stopping it?</p>
<p>In one of his recent interviews Mr. Mushahid Hussain (Secretary PML Q) pointed towards the fact that this countires middle class has tremendously grown in intellect and now understands the issues which it is facing and the country is facing.</p>
<p>Our politicians are pressing, destroying and eradicating the only class which can make a notceable difference in this country. The middle class in my point of view is the most effected class by these recent changes. Our politicians through systematic are over burdening us under problems, issues, taxes so we loose our ability to think freely and to challenge them.</p>
<p>People its time we take this countries future in our hand and we make our governments answerable to us.</p>
<p>May Allah have mercy on us and our country. Ameen</p>
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		<title>By: Farid Masood</title>
		<link>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-58943</link>
		<dc:creator>Farid Masood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes you are right, I have mentioned the price of crude oil not petrol, if we separate ingredients of crude oil then the price of petrol would not be higher than Rs 30 per liter if we purchase it at USD 142 per barrel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes you are right, I have mentioned the price of crude oil not petrol, if we separate ingredients of crude oil then the price of petrol would not be higher than Rs 30 per liter if we purchase it at USD 142 per barrel.</p>
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		<title>By: Saleem Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-58925</link>
		<dc:creator>Saleem Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pakspectator.com/cng-price-rs-22-kilogram/#comment-58925</guid>
		<description>Dear,

When petrol price was Rs 57/-. at that time, PSO ex refinery price was 23.47 Rs per liter (including nominal profits of PSO). It is authentic figure because my very close friend told me. He is working as Manager in PSO. Rest all were charged as Taxes, commision, duties etc etc. 

Keep in mind, this price was of pure petrol, not we are buying on stations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear,</p>
<p>When petrol price was Rs 57/-. at that time, PSO ex refinery price was 23.47 Rs per liter (including nominal profits of PSO). It is authentic figure because my very close friend told me. He is working as Manager in PSO. Rest all were charged as Taxes, commision, duties etc etc. </p>
<p>Keep in mind, this price was of pure petrol, not we are buying on stations.</p>
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